Dutch based bicycle manufacturer Santos Bikes gave us a Santos Travel Lite for a first ever durability test. With more than 20.000 kilometers I guess we can now give you some insight on our experiences with this 29-er.
Santos Bikes
With a growing amount of dealers all over Europe, Santos Bikes is a well known bicycle manufacturer among bicycle travellers. Since 1997 they stand for innovation and quality and at the moment Santos is one of Rohloffs best customers. They were one of the first to put a bicycle on the market with both a Rohloff hub and a Gates Carbon belt. They have more user experience than any other brand in the bicycle travel section.
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Custom build bicycles
Many bicycle manufacturers only offer out of the box bicycles, not taking into account the specific wishes of each customer. Not Santos. With their custom build program you can compose the bicycle which suits you best. They offer a wide range of quality products to choose from to make it the best bike for ‘you’.
Specifications
The Santos Travel Lite is a 29-er and has an aluminum frame with smoothly welded junctions and alu fork with Magura hydraulic firmtech brakes. We chose to ride one with a Rohloff hub and Gates Carbon belt drive. A Tubus rear rack, which is created by Santos (Santos Travelrack) and wide Tubus Tara front rack to put our panniers on. It comes with a 64 centimeter wide Santos handlebar with a 10 degrees bend. We ride with Schwalbe Mondial 50-622 EVO tires and to produce some light/energy, we have a SON 28 hub dynamo. The Dutch Rigida rims have a special ceramic coating, CSS. Front rim is the Rigida Sputnik and the rear rim is a Rigida Andra 30, the latter is especially manufactured for the Rohloff hub. We put our feet on Wellgo ‘platform’ pedals, which are extra wide and have pins attached to them for support. The bottom bracket is an old fashioned square one. Oh, and we ride with mudguards.
Smoothly welded junctions on the Travel Lite
Rohloff hub
Little maintenance, durable and a 50% stronger rear wheel. With a little over 20.000 kilometers the hub is performing great! Changing gears is very smooth and quick. Multiple gears in one single switch and when not pedaling. No chainsuck, no grease and less wear and tear. We just love the hub. All we did so far is change oil after 7000 kilometers (Rohloff recommends 5000 kilometers) and once more after 15.000 kilometers.
Normally the Travel Lite with Rohloff and belt has 55T sprockets in the front and 22T sprockets in the back. We believed this was just not enough for the steep climbs, especially when you cary a lot of luggage. That’s why we changed the front sprockets for 50T. This proved to be very useful in mountainous terrain.
A dirty Rohloff hub
Gates CDC riem
There are two types of Gates Carbon belts: the CDC and the CenterTrack. We tested the CenterTrack on our Santos Race Lite for 17.000 kilometers, but after 8000 km wear and tear was showing. Santos did the same kind of test and came to the same conclusion, the CDC lasts about 2-4 times longer than the CenterTrack. Plus, the CenterTrack is more expensive and has more resistance to it.
So, we ride with a CDC belt and so far it is still going strong and we expect it will last at least 35.000 kilometer.
The only thing we noticed which can be a bit annoying, is the grinding sound we have with very dry and thin dust. It kind of sounds like a chain that needs to be oiled, but no effect on how the belt drives. And, no problems with snow, mud or rain.
Tensioning the belt
As with a normal chain, a belt needs tensioning too. Even though this needs to be done maybe only once. There are actually two ways on the market to do this: the first one is with sliding dropouts and the second way is with an eccentric bottom bracket.
In order for a belt to perform at its best, the sprockets need to be perfectly alligned. With sliding dropouts it’s a bit more difficult, but still doable.
With an eccentric bottom bracket it is a bit easier to allign the sprockets perfectly, this is the proven technology when using a belt. Santos implemented the eccentric bottom bracket method to tension the belt. The bottom bracket does need a bit of maintenance every now and then.
The Gates CDC Belt
Oke, how does the Santos Travel Lite ride?
In our opinion a good travel bicycle needs to be stiff, strong and maneuverable. Being used to riding a 26 inch bicycle we were sceptic at first. But, we turned out to be wrong. This 29-er knows how to twist and turn when needed. Maybe not as much as a 26 inch bicycle, but the difference is negigible. It is very, (and I mean) very stable in sharp curves, even in high speed and with a heavy load.
The 29-er combined with the 50mm Schwalbe Mondial tires runs more easily over stones and rocks than a 26 inch bike would do. And on smooth tarmac it takes less energy to keep the same speed.
The Santos Travel Lite does what I want it to do, not the other way around. It has the ideal position for long distance cycling, but you can easily adjust this to a more comfortable / straight up one if you’d like.
The ‘ass’ of the bike doesn’t shake, it is very stable. In short, we were positively surprised with its comfortable driving characteristics.
The eccentric bottom bracket
16 comments
HI E & E,
You have mentioned that the belt might be tensioned just once. I was just wondering: in case you need to take out the rear wheel from the dropouts (puncture, maintenence), do you have to release the eccentric bottom bracket (which means to release the two bolt on the bottom bracket shell) ?
I case you do, this must be a little anoying bease the botls and nuts are usually cover in mud and send and this gets into the threads ? Is it the case?
The other option might be that you do not need to do what I wrote above and just ´slide in´ the real wheel into the dropout. But I am not sure if man can tension the belt enough to get the axel to dropout.
Could you send me some comments please?
Hi Michal,
No, you don’t have to release the eccentric bottom bracket when taking out the rear wheel. Your last comment about ‘tensioning enough’ I don’t really understand what you mean by that, could you clarify that a bit?
Thanks!
Are you thinking of switching to a belt? 😉
Hi,
I thought that you are not able to put the rear wheel back unless you release the EBB. But it is ok.
Yes, I wanted the belt since beginning but did not have enough time to do the conversion before departure. I thought a special frame was too expensive therefore I just went for chain. I try in the US as long as the frame will be OK in terms of stiffness. Just searching for info now. Plus I had 2 belt driven bikes for commuting in CZ and UK so I know the comfort of cleanliness. I just used horizontal dropouts on those bikes and did not had experience with EBB. I believe the belt is the way to go 😉
BTW, we pedal along the Ecuadorian coast now and enjoying the Pacific but we plan to return to cordillera soon. Say hello to Ellen and thanks for sharing your experience!
Regards M
Hi! What’s a bike like that cost all up as outfitted in the first photo (Euros or U.S. $$)? Thanks!
Hi Wayne,
The Santos Travel Lite with Rohloff hub and Gates Carbon Drive will cost you about 4000 euro. Cheers!
Hi, great review. I’m sold.
Will be shopping for new bike later this year. Currently in Aus, but heading to northern hemisphere mid-year. Can you recommend a dealer in Europe or US who can assemble a configuration of this bike very similar to yours?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks! 😉
You know, there is a dealer in Australia as well! But here’s a list of Santos dealers: http://santosbikes.com/dealers
Good luck, you won’t regret it!
My current bike has 26″ Rigida Andras CSS so I know how good they are. Have you had any issues with getting new tyres, tubes … for any other concerns about using 29’s in remote places?
No, no issues. We’ve seen many 29-er mountainbikes in South America and parts are readily available. Maybe not the best tyres for the job, but pretty close. We started with new tyres and they are still doing well.
Interested bikes, what is the price?
Thanks. Starting from 4.199 Euros, depending on your setup. You can customize the bicycle to your needs.
Thanks a lot – dank je. I learned a lot reading this and your pinion review also. I had doubts about it and about brake types. Your reply to a post on there was very illustrating. I’m newbie to touring bikes yet. Other doubt I have is about the frame sizes available for pinion framed bikes, I think I only can find bikes bigger than size L when I go to some configuration pages. No idea if it has to do with frames for pinion…
Travel Master series has 2.6 and 2.8 bikes too. I was wondering about it, what might be pros and contras of each size, or for what or whom would be better 2.6 instead of 2.9. I mean for touring, not just mountain biking. All the best and I hope to be following your wheel tracks soon!
TravelMaster 2.6 or the Travel Lite??
Whats is your preference and why for world touring and expedition?
Are you completely sold on IGH’s and Hydraulic Brakes??
V-Pull brakes and derailuer geared bikes work ok yes?? –
Where do you love Eduardo? I’m 1.69m and I was able to find a Pinion bike that fits. Actually, I know about two of them! The Santos Bikes and the Avaghon X29 (http://www.avaghon.nl/en/our-bicycles/avaghon-x29).
2.6 bikes are on their detour at the moment, it’s 29-ers that are more common every day. We have been riding with 29-ers for three years now, I really like it. Unless you are really short, the big wheels would look a bit strange maybe. Try to find a good bikeshop that knows about touring bikes, Bike4travel ( http://www.bike4travel.nl) for instance. But I don’t know your whereabouts 😉 but you can always contact them.
Definitely Travel Lite for me! 😉 I love the 29-er bike, and 26 inch is so old school nowadays 😉
But, you should try and feel for yourself. I’m sold on Rohloff and Hydraulic Brakes. On our new bike we ride with hydraulic disc brakes for the first time, we’ll see how that goes. So far, just 1000 kilometers with them, but still going strong!
Yes, V-brakes and derailleurs work just fine.
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